HR Tech Las Vegas: Crowds, Jugglers, and Another Try at a Great Debate

Here’s a question for HR Technology co-chair Bill Kutik and his many minions who work on the annual conference: who came up with the bright idea to book two guys who juggle chain saws as lunchtime entertainment?

Now, don’t hear that I object to the jugglers. Actually, I loved ’em, and they were really the perfect entertainment choice for a conference in Las Vegas — and the perfect metaphor for all that was going on at the 14th annual HR Technology Conference and Exhibition here in Sin City.

That’s because I have never attended a conference or trade show where I ever did as much juggling — juggling what to see, juggling what to do, who to meet, or simply how to just pack in as much as I could at an event where there was far more you could choose to pack in than any human could. Add in the Vegas sirens song of far too many cocktail parties and sponsored late night club events, and I’m quickly on sensory overload.

HR Tech now one of the 2 “must go” conferences

As conferences go, HR Tech has moved to another level. The amount of frenzied activity that takes place both in and around the event have made it very similar to the SHRM national conference in June. That is, it’s an event that you have to carefully prepare yourself for because it is on a scale that is all consuming once you’re there.

I said this here at TLNT last year after attending HR Tech in Chicago, and it bears repeating. It’s not that this conference has suddenly become something good, because it has always been that. What has changed, however, is that HR Technology has evolved from good into one of the very top HR-related “must attend” events that I would recommend to anyone who wants to quickly get plugged into the human resources/talent management arena.

Or to put it another way, there are two big conferences you need to go to each year if you REALLY want to understand what is happening in HR — the SHRM national conference in early summer, and the HR Tech conference in early fall. There are other worthwhile events, of course, but these are the two that you plan everything else around because you can’t afford not to be at them.

In other words, the HR Technology conference actually exceeds Bill Kutik’s over-the-top and unrelenting braggadocio about it, and that is a tough standard to meet, indeed.

So with that said, here are some observations after three days of meetings, speakers, breakout sessions, after-hours parties, and all manner of discussions here at the first ever HR Technology in Las Vegas:

A big conference that just got a lot bigger

Getting specifics on how many people actually attend a given conference is always hard to get no matter what the conference. Part of that is because people come and go and register right up to the very end, and part of it is because every conference organizer seems to count attendees, vendors, exhibitors, volunteers, press/analysts, and comps a little differently.

The official HR Tech attendance number is supposed to be be available in another week or so, but here’s what we know now: last year’s event in Chicago was the largest HR tech ever — and this year in Las Vegas was clearly larger.

I’m told that last year’s head count was around 4,000 (that probably represents everyone who attended in every category combined), and, that this year was roughly 40 percent larger. That would mean another 1600 participants, or 5,500-5,600 total. That sounds like a lot, and although it WAS a really big crowd at the Mandalay Bay, my rough estimate came to around 4,800-5,000. No matter what the final head count, that’s a sizable crowd (Editor’s Note: see the clarification on the attendance in comment from Bill Kutik below).

Another Great Technology Debate

Last year saw the first ever Great Technology Debate, moderated by Bill Kutik, on Day 2 of the conference, and Jason Averbrook of Knowledge Infusion squared off against Jim Holincheck of Gartner. It’s a fun event that usually doesn’t get to wonky or technical, and I felt that despite a great effort by Holincheck, Jason Averbrook won the first time around. Of course, Averbrook was only in the debate because he pinch hit at the last minute for Naomi Bloom of Bloom & Wallace when she had to bow out due to a death in her extended family.

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This year, Averbrook got to defend his debate crown against Naomi Bloom. Problem was, these two debaters are simply too simpatico on most technology matters — something that Kutik admitted before this year’s debate got started.

But Bill also said that he tried to find some areas of disagreement to pose as questions for the two, and that the bottom line of the annual debate was simple. “We are shameless in inviting back the best people,” he said. “They have new things to say each year — and that’s what makes them the best people.”

Probably the biggest disagreement came over the term “talent management” (Averbrook: It never ends and must be tied to a business outcome. Bloom: I don’t like the term and use strategic resources instead) but overall, it was less of a debate and more of a good discussion on current trends in HR Technology. Although the crowd voted about 65 percent to 35 percent for Averbrook as the winner, I’d call the Great Tech Debate 2011 pretty much a draw.

What about those jugglers with chain saws?

Rarely do you see speakers or mealtime entertainment work so perfectly with their surroundings, but that’s how it was with the two juggling comedians who bill themselves as ‘The Passing Zone.” They were funny, amusing, and yes, they even juggled chain saws.

Their act after the new products award ceremony on Monday wouldn’t have worked in Chicago, or virtually anywhere else in the world, but it was the perfect lunch entertainment for a conference in Vegas. Here’s hoping Kutik & Company brings these two back the next time that HR Tech is here in Nevada, because they were the best lunch entertainment I’ve ever seen at the conference — or just about any other conference as well.

And speaking of HR Tech 2013 …

Next year, the HR Technology conference will be back to its longtime home in Chicago from Oct 8-10, 2013. My sense is that will make the event slightly calmer and less frantic, but who knows? I keep getting surprised each year I attend, so I suspect that the year 2013 won’t be any different in that regard.

But, Kutik is bringing the event back to the Mandalay Bay and Las Vegas in 2014 for a few years, and going back and forth between Chicago and Vegas is probably how HR Tech will roll for the foreseeable future. There’s no problem with that in my book, because clearly, this event has become an annual happening and seems to feed off its environment no matter where it happens to be held.

John Hollon is Editor-at-Large at ERE Media and was the founding Editor of A longtime newspaper, magazine, and business journal editor, John has deep roots in the talent management space. He's the former Editor of Workforce Management magazine and, served as Editor of RecruitingDaily, and was Vice President for Content at HR technology firm Checkster. An award-winning journalist, John has written extensively about HR, talent management, leadership, and smart business practices, including for the popular Fistful of Talent blog. Contact him at, connect with him on LinkedIn, or follow him on Twitter @johnhollon.


5 Comments on “HR Tech Las Vegas: Crowds, Jugglers, and Another Try at a Great Debate

  1. Thanks for your kind words, John. To be clear on the number, the whole community in Las Vegas for HR Technology — paid attendees, paid and free expo-only, Wall Street sharks, speakers, freeloading analysts/press/bloggers (as I am elsewhere), and all the vendor personnel — many of whom paid, too — that total this year was about 4,000. You were mistaken on last year’s number from which you extrapolated.

    Purely paid attendance, which I guess is the real barometer of popularity, was nearly 40% ahead of last year’s 13-year record.

    Thank you for putting us on an even shorter list than last year, when you proclaimed us one of the three most important conference, and now it’s just us and SHRM. An odd combination since we are so unalike in some many ways, but I take it as the compliment you meant.

    1. Bill: Always great to get a comment from you here, and thanks for the clarification on the attendance. 

      Yes, HR Tech is very different from the SHRM national conference, and I think that’s the point. I have asked many many vendors and attendees of the big SHRM event why they go, and they all say something about how they feel they must go despite the shortcomings of the conference. No one ever mentions that they go because of the content, or the Exhibit Hall. 

      Well, when I ask the same kind of people that same kind of question about HR Tech, they tell me they go because of the people the event attracts BECAUSE of the content and the Exhibit Hall, among other reasons. If anything, your event has grown because, unlike SHRM’s conference, people really feel they get a lot of value out of HR Tech.  

      And please, make sure you give a bonus to the person on your team who lined up the jugglers. They deserve it, because it was hands down the best entertainment I have ever seen at a conference anywhere … and that’s probably because they were so very, very appropriate for a Las Vegas event. 

      See you down the road — next year in Chicago, certainly …

      1. It wasn’t the person “on my team” who picked the jugglers, John, but my partner and conference co-chair Dave Shadovitz, vice president of “Human Resource Executive,” your former friendly competitor when you ran “Workforce Management” magazine. Dave’s contributions to the wild success of the conference tent to get overlooked, and he has the touch for lunch-time entertainment, which I lack and would program another breakout. He has picked the luncheon group for 14 years. I think I made a successful recommendation once.

        1. John, don’t ever trust me on the numbers. Ask your old Gannet colleague, Claude Werder, VP of Conferences, who runs the thing. Just got the final report, and the total community numbered 4,590. So you were closer to being right the first time, than I was.

          1. Bill: Thanks for the update on the HR tech numbers. And, glad to hear that my talent for eyeballing a crowd and figuring size is still good. You had me worried there. 

            It was a great conference — again — but the one big thing I heard lots of people talking about this year was the increased energy level everyone felt. I’m not sure if that was due to having the event in Las Vegas or something else, but lots and lots of people mentioned it.

            And, that’s the big difference between the SHRM national conference and HR Tech. I can do a good comparison of the two this year because both events were in Vegas, and despite it’s much larger size, the SHRM national conference didn’t come close to having the energy and passion that HR Tech did.

            This gets back to my original point: people go to SHRM because they feel they have to, but people go to HR Tech because they want and need to. And as a conference, that’s where I would much rather be.    

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